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Post by KPRS4ever on Mar 15, 2016 22:00:44 GMT -5
Does anyone else think they should have shown what happened right after the kiss in So the Drama? Like, maybe in the beginning of Ill Suited or something?
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Post by Sharper The Writer on Mar 15, 2016 22:01:44 GMT -5
I would!
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Post by KPRS4ever on Mar 15, 2016 22:03:07 GMT -5
I would! Honestly, I think they should've shown their first date and all that too! I mean, how the very first few days of their relationship started!
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Post by Sharper The Writer on Mar 15, 2016 22:04:26 GMT -5
That's true!
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Post by KPRS4ever on Mar 15, 2016 22:07:49 GMT -5
Yeah. Or make little mini-episodes about that stuff
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 22:17:32 GMT -5
Well, remember, STD was to be KP's last stand. they wanted a BIG ending. I also read somewhere that Shego was supposed to Die in the end. THANK GOD that was changed.
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Post by KPRS4ever on Mar 15, 2016 22:27:56 GMT -5
Well, remember, STD was to be KP's last stand. they wanted a BIG ending. I also read somewhere that Shego was supposed to Die in the end. THANK GOD that was changed. Woah seriously??? That's a little extreme for KP isn't it???
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Post by wolfandlionpower on Mar 15, 2016 22:29:48 GMT -5
Well, remember, STD was to be KP's last stand. they wanted a BIG ending. I also read somewhere that Shego was supposed to Die in the end. THANK GOD that was changed. Woah seriously??? That's a little extreme for KP isn't it??? Yeah it's true, but no because fans will get mad to kill of a popular character, thank goodness!!!!
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Post by neosaiyanangel on Mar 15, 2016 22:30:10 GMT -5
I do know that they didn't have Shego in the shot in the police van during test viewings. That made the test audiences think that Kim purposely killed Shego, partly because of the look that was on her face as the tower crumbled. While they may or may not have intended to off Shego, they DEFINITELY didn't mean to make Kim look like a willing murderer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 22:40:44 GMT -5
I do know that they didn't have Shego in the shot in the police van during test viewings. That made the test audiences think that Kim purposely killed Shego, partly because of the look that was on her face as the tower crumbled. While they may or may not have intended to off Shego, they DEFINITELY didn't mean to make Kim look like a willing murderer. I think it was to show that'even as a hero' Kim has a dark side.
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Post by Sharper The Writer on Mar 15, 2016 22:51:29 GMT -5
Then again, I may get some flack for this but had the creators gone the Disney Villain Death route, they'd add an earlier scene in which Drakken is preparing a grandstand tower for once he conquers the world with the Diablos on top of the BN headquarters. Problem 1 is that it's right next to the electrical tower. Problem 2 would be that the tower was made from faulty concrete.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 22:59:31 GMT -5
Then again, I may get some flack for this but had the creators gone the Disney Villain Death route, they'd add an earlier scene in which Drakken is preparing a grandstand tower for once he conquers the world with the Diablos on top of the BN headquarters. Problem 1 is that it's right next to the electrical tower. Problem 2 would be that the tower was made from faulty concrete. No flak Sharpie. It makes sense. I'm still glad they didn't kill off Shego.
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Post by wolfandlionpower on Mar 15, 2016 23:06:55 GMT -5
Then again, I may get some flack for this but had the creators gone the Disney Villain Death route, they'd add an earlier scene in which Drakken is preparing a grandstand tower for once he conquers the world with the Diablos on top of the BN headquarters. Problem 1 is that it's right next to the electrical tower. Problem 2 would be that the tower was made from faulty concrete. No flak Sharpie. It makes sense. I'm still glad they didn't kill off Shego. Me too...
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Post by christhecynic on Mar 16, 2016 7:20:20 GMT -5
If you watch the tower scene in isolation, Kim looks like a villain. Shego's not looking for a fight and just walking, she reacts to seeing Kim with a fearful gasp*, Kim says that she hates Shego**, Kim has ... I think the term is a "curb-stomp battle" where she beats Shego in a single blow proving that this could not possibly have been self defense, as a result Shego should have died many times over***, and then comes the bad part: dramatic music, zoom in on Kim who has every reason to think she just killed Shego, lighting strikes and thunder cracks in the background, timed to one of those lighting strikes: Kim smiles. She doesn't come off looking like a hero; she comes off looking like someone who takes joy in killing. To bring this back around to the beginning of the thread, I'd like to have seen the fallout from that night in general. Kim and Ron trying to transition from being friends to being a couple after the adrenaline high wore off. Dealing with Ron's worries from Emotion Sickness (that romance could threaten their friendship.) But also Kim having to come to terms with the fact that she went overboard and her actions really should have been quite deadly. She got spared from being a killer by handwavium that she couldn't possibly have seen coming, so after the tower scene she knows that she has it in her to be a killer. To enjoy it, even. Sure, Kim can do anything, but it seems to me like that should be a hard thing for a high school student to come to grips with. I'm not a fan of angysty angsting angst, but if anything ought to cause emotional turmoil I'd think, "I almost killed someone, and I enjoyed it," should be up there for a hero like Kim. - * In context instead of isolation: Fear! Shego shows fear. Usually that's reserved for sharks and crocodiles (or was it alligators?) in other words: large carnivores with strong bites and pointy teeth. ** Again, in context instead of isolation: this is a callback to something Shego said earlier, but Shego said she hated a type of situation while Kim says she hates a person. *** Shego's "healing factor" became a thing because no normal human being could have survived any component of what happened to her in that sequence, not even in a Disney cartoon. (The fall alone is what's been used to to kill a lot of Disney villains.) So it was either find an inhuman/abnormal explanation ("The comet made her into Wolverine!") or ignore the series finale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 17:18:17 GMT -5
If you watch the tower scene in isolation, Kim looks like a villain. Shego's not looking for a fight and just walking, she reacts to seeing Kim with a fearful gasp*, Kim says that she hates Shego**, Kim has ... I think the term is a "curb-stomp battle" where she beats Shego in a single blow proving that this could not possibly have been self defense, as a result Shego should have died many times over***, and then comes the bad part: dramatic music, zoom in on Kim who has every reason to think she just killed Shego, lighting strikes and thunder cracks in the background, timed to one of those lighting strikes: Kim smiles. She doesn't come off looking like a hero; she comes off looking like someone who takes joy in killing. To bring this back around to the beginning of the thread, I'd like to have seen the fallout from that night in general. Kim and Ron trying to transition from being friends to being a couple after the adrenaline high wore off. Dealing with Ron's worries from Emotion Sickness (that romance could threaten their friendship.) But also Kim having to come to terms with the fact that she went overboard and her actions really should have been quite deadly. She got spared from being a killer by handwavium that she couldn't possibly have seen coming, so after the tower scene she knows that she has it in her to be a killer. To enjoy it, even. Sure, Kim can do anything, but it seems to me like that should be a hard thing for a high school student to come to grips with. I'm not a fan of angysty angsting angst, but if anything ought to cause emotional turmoil I'd think, "I almost killed someone, and I enjoyed it," should be up there for a hero like Kim. - * In context instead of isolation: Fear! Shego shows fear. Usually that's reserved for sharks and crocodiles (or was it alligators?) in other words: large carnivores with strong bites and pointy teeth. ** Again, in context instead of isolation: this is a callback to something Shego said earlier, but Shego said she hated a type of situation while Kim says she hates a person. *** Shego's "healing factor" became a thing because no normal human being could have survived any component of what happened to her in that sequence, not even in a Disney cartoon. (The fall alone is what's been used to to kill a lot of Disney villains.) So it was either find an inhuman/abnormal explanation ("The comet made her into Wolverine!") or ignore the series finale. Absolutely. the point being ,sometimes good guys do Bad things! just like some times bad guys do good things. Also Shego is kinda like Wolverine, That comet did wonders for her and her brothers. Which always made made me wonder. How can a teenage cheerleader, with nor real martial arts or combat training, defeat a super heroine turned Villainess ?? I believe shego would let her win, for some reason. Finally that final statement of Kim's " you know what I hate,, YOU!!" . This is something the KiGo shippers always seem to overlook. Especially the fact that Kim Actually enjoyed 'potentially' killing Shego.
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