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Post by oldsoldier2 on Mar 6, 2016 10:05:54 GMT -5
Just a few ruminations on the nature of Shego's green glow.
It appears to me there is a fanon that Shego's power is some sort of highly flammable, high energy plasma capable of creating rubble, igniting or melting things (I think even welding); a power even her brothers fear. This raised arguments of why Kim's hands or face didn't suffer burns when she held on to Shego's wrists during a grappling session, for example (Kigo writers get a lot of mileage out this as proof of her affection for Kim).
From watching the show it appears Shego's glow is usually concussive in nature, that is it seems to be used either as a kinetic enhancer when pummelling or clawing things or, when thrown, to knock down things or people (the Lipsky brothers seem popular targets). The time in 'Bad Boy' when she conjures a dense ball of energy brought to mind an area effect concussion bomb. These effects didn't appear to ignite anything, merely generate a sledgehammer effect.
The other effect I noted was the plasma torch one like that in 'Emotion Sickness' when Shego carves the initials in the rock wall of the lair. I don't recall seeing this particular ability used in combat which, if that is the case, may mean she needs focus to apply her glow that way; perhaps being in a melee with Kim precludes that ability to focus.
Questions, comments or concerns?
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Post by levi2000a on Mar 8, 2016 16:51:45 GMT -5
I thought it to be a matter of focus, like comparing an ordinary light bulb to a laser beam. They are both just 'light' but one is highly focused. Now I did lightly examine the source source of her power in one of my stories. "Both Kim, Wade and even Global Justice had pondered the question of how Shego was able to generate the plasma that she used as weapons and tools back when they were trying to capture her. One idea Wade had was that she wasn't generating power so much as converting it. His voice literally echoed in her mind of him lecturing her back then. "The first law of thermodynamics states that energy is neither created nor destroyed. Now Shego is well known for being spotted basking in the sun on some tropical beach or under a sunlamp. She always claimed she was working on her tan…Now think about it…tanning a pale skin that never showed any sign of darkening whatsoever?', the genius laughed, 'I don't think so!' As this resonated, the memory continued, "What if she was merely absorbing the heat and storing it like a battery or a capacitor so it could later be converted into plasma?"I know it wasn't the main idea of this thread. I just wanted to put it out for consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 18:11:42 GMT -5
I thought it to be a matter of focus, like comparing an ordinary light bulb to a laser beam. They are both just 'light' but one is highly focused. Now I did lightly examine the source source of her power in one of my stories. "Both Kim, Wade and even Global Justice had pondered the question of how Shego was able to generate the plasma that she used as weapons and tools back when they were trying to capture her. One idea Wade had was that she wasn't generating power so much as converting it. His voice literally echoed in her mind of him lecturing her back then. "The first law of thermodynamics states that energy is neither created nor destroyed. Now Shego is well known for being spotted basking in the sun on some tropical beach or under a sunlamp. She always claimed she was working on her tan…Now think about it…tanning a pale skin that never showed any sign of darkening whatsoever?', the genius laughed, 'I don't think so!' As this resonated, the memory continued, "What if she was merely absorbing the heat and storing it like a battery or a capacitor so it could later be converted into plasma?"I know it wasn't the main idea of this thread. I just wanted to put it out for consideration. Another theory that makes sense. I have to agree with you on this. Yet with all this power, How come she always would succumb to hand cuffs? ? She should have been able to destroy them......
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Post by levi2000a on Mar 8, 2016 18:43:43 GMT -5
Usually the handcuffs were used after a prolong battle, like near the end of So The Drama. Her 'batteries' or 'charge' would have been drained so she didn't have the power.
At that time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 18:48:50 GMT -5
That makes sense. I'm referring to all the other times. For instance. Warmonga had her hands trapped in that 'cuff pod'. Shego destroyed it.......Hand cuffs should never have been a prob for her.
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Post by levi2000a on Mar 8, 2016 21:10:05 GMT -5
That makes sense. I'm referring to all the other times. For instance. Warmonga had her hands trapped in that 'cuff pod'. Shego destroyed it.......Hand cuffs should never have been a prob for her. In this case, I attributed it to alien technologies (dampening fields, metallurgic properties, etc) that weren't really capable of handling Shego's burst of anger and power after she'd had time to 'recharge' herself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 21:37:57 GMT -5
That makes sense. I'm referring to all the other times. For instance. Warmonga had her hands trapped in that 'cuff pod'. Shego destroyed it.......Hand cuffs should never have been a prob for her. In this case, I attributed it to alien technologies (dampening fields, metallurgic properties, etc) that weren't really capable of handling Shego's burst of anger and power after she'd had time to 'recharge' herself. Nope. i blame the Mouse for holding her back .. see, The Mouse is the "MAN" !
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Post by levi2000a on Mar 8, 2016 22:41:54 GMT -5
No one can blame the great and all powerful Mouse!
Shush. His lawyers are everywhere listening, watching and reading. After all, he owns Disney Corporation, Lucasfilm Ltd., Buena Vista Music Co., ESPN, Pixar Animation Studios, Touchstone Pictures, Touchstone Pictures Music & Songs, Inc., Marvel Productions, Marvel Comics, Hulu, The Muppets Studio and ABC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 22:43:32 GMT -5
He's worse than " Whitie!!!"
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Post by christhecynic on Mar 15, 2016 7:40:26 GMT -5
Shego's power worked as the plot ... I was going to say "demands" but that's too strong a word. As the plot desires.
Temperature things: --She thinks she can use it to heat food (example: Stop Team Go) --She uses it to start things burning (example: pictures in Stop Team Go.) --She uses it to incinerate things reducing them straight to ash and smoke with no flame or burning (example: ropes in Odds Man In.)
She can also use it to knock someone out with a finger to the head (example: first guard in The Twin Factor).
She can definitely use it as force without heat (example: knocking DNAmy backwards (hard) without singing a thing in Partners).
She uses it to cut and/or smash through things so much that I can't even figure out what example to use. Often wood or metal. (Though do note the stone carving she seems to do in Emotion Sickness that Old Soldier points out.) Whether this involves heat or force is kind of difficult to work out and really needs to be looked at on a case by case basis which I'm totally not going to do right now.
She can form it into a ball that explodes on contact (example: at the Henchco convention in Bad Boy)
And probably other things too.
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My theory on why Shego never uses the power to kill Kim when she very definitely could have (just turn on the incineration from Odds Man In while grappling) is very simple: she's not a killer. Nothing about secret hidden feelings for Kim, she's just not a killer. She may be ok at a remove (giant stone gorilla is doing it, not me / deathtrap is doing it, not me) or it could be she expects heroes to pull through, but regardless actually killing someone with her own hands would go against her ethos.
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Post by buckmana on Mar 19, 2016 3:44:00 GMT -5
I always assumed that Shego could only generate heat inside the field itself and in a relatively contained area. Basically, Shego's hands are "hot", but her wrists are "cold".
Since she can only radiate the energy from her hands, it is not possible to melt metal cuffs or anything. Thus, Kim grabbing Shego by the wrists is a safe way to hold Shego immobile.
In other words, if Shego isn't fighting you with her hands or fingers, she's no more dangerous then any other unarmed martial arts expert.
I assume the energy bolts she shoots out work in the same way, hot on the inside, but if they don't hit anything, no damage is inflicted,
There also appears to be a limit to how much damage her energy can do, the Centurion armor only experienced surface level abrasions, Shego could only cut the outer layer, the inner layer was imprevious. While not as durable, Kim's supersuit also uses the same principles, all the energy is absorbed cutting through the armored material, leaving very little force left when it slices through. Shego hit Kim with a full powered swipe and all it did was give her some minor cuts.
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Post by malevolentsnow on Mar 20, 2016 1:32:41 GMT -5
I think what people are missing is the fact that this is a Disney show... Her glow has made contact with people and has never even left burn marks on their skin.
I always imagined Disney only showed the episodes where Kim won and she didn't get hurt. I liked to imagine that there were episodes where the bad guys won (I mean come on, how many parts do you think they had to steal to make those machines?!) Obviously those episodes don't exist, I'm not that stupid ha ha but it was always a fun thought XD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 20:26:16 GMT -5
I think what people are missing is the fact that this is a Disney show... Her glow has made contact with people and has never even left burn marks on their skin. I always imagined Disney only showed the episodes where Kim won and she didn't get hurt. I liked to imagine that there were episodes where the bad guys won (I mean come on, how many parts do you think they had to steal to make those machines?!) Obviously those episodes don't exist, I'm not that stupid ha ha but it was always a fun thought XD I'm with you. let the Bad guy win every once in a while.
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Post by Luke Danger on Mar 23, 2016 20:55:00 GMT -5
I think what people are missing is the fact that this is a Disney show... Her glow has made contact with people and has never even left burn marks on their skin. I always imagined Disney only showed the episodes where Kim won and she didn't get hurt. I liked to imagine that there were episodes where the bad guys won (I mean come on, how many parts do you think they had to steal to make those machines?!) Obviously those episodes don't exist, I'm not that stupid ha ha but it was always a fun thought XD I'm with you. let the Bad guy win every once in a while. Actually in a way we did see such a case in 'Mind Games' or 'Ron Millionaire'. In the former, Drakken's plan self foiled and the plot was more getting back to normal. In the latter, he outright got away with all of Ron's cash and then self-foiled himself. That's actually probably what happens a good amount of the time Kim doesn't "succeed" - they get into full mad scientist mode and don't realize they set up their own failure. Or heck, Triple S, where the Seniors got their money back and Kim more or less just watched as it happened (even though she'd already captured Senior). Though for obvious reasons I think any bad guy who has 'take over the world' or 'cause some big harm' fails, but that's more of a status quo thing. Plus Kim isn't the only hero - wouldn't be surprised if there's times where Kim doesn't stop step one, but the intel from that puts other heroes and GJ on alert and they foil it since they're in a better position to do so or get an opportunity that Kim would take too long to get there for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 21:06:09 GMT -5
I'm with you. let the Bad guy win every once in a while. Actually in a way we did see such a case in 'Mind Games' or 'Ron Millionaire'. In the former, Drakken's plan self foiled and the plot was more getting back to normal. In the latter, he outright got away with all of Ron's cash and then self-foiled himself. That's actually probably what happens a good amount of the time Kim doesn't "succeed" - they get into full mad scientist mode and don't realize they set up their own failure. Or heck, Triple S, where the Seniors got their money back and Kim more or less just watched as it happened (even though she'd already captured Senior). Though for obvious reasons I think any bad guy who has 'take over the world' or 'cause some big harm' fails, but that's more of a status quo thing. Plus Kim isn't the only hero - wouldn't be surprised if there's times where Kim doesn't stop step one, but the intel from that puts other heroes and GJ on alert and they foil it since they're in a better position to do so or get an opportunity that Kim would take too long to get there for. I still believe that Shego foils the plans on purpose. That was a topic of debate on this forum recently.
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